Dr. Joseph Maroon & Dr. David Rabin PODCAST on the The Future Of Healthcare
Nov 2000 – PODCAST with Ben GreenField – The Future Of Healthcare, Wearables, AI, Plant Medicine & More With Dr. David Rabin & Dr. Joseph Maroon.
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During this discussion, you’ll discover:
Dr. Maroon Discusses Burnout and COVID-19…08:05
- Someone who has had burnout and has survived it
- Bound by ambition to become a successful neurosurgeon
- Flew like Icarus, then burned out with personal setbacks
- Overwhelmed, overworked, over-committed, over-stressed
- Every man’s life is a diary; a diary in which we intend to write one story, but end up writing another
- His banker asked him to go on a run, which helped alleviate stress
- This eventually led to running triathlons; he credits this to saving his life
- Studied the physiology of stress, the effect of exercise on the human brain, how to overcome stress
- Joseph Maroon’s book – Square One: A Simple Guide To A Balanced Life
The connection between burnout and adrenal fatigue…13:40
- Walter Cannon and Homeostasis: the ability of the body to maintain stability under all circumstances
- Stress produces an outpouring of cortisol from the adrenal gland (along with DHEA, pregnenolone, etc.)
- This is life-saving in an emergency situation
- Chronic stress results in “adrenal atrophy”
- Two responses (coined by Hans Selye): Stress response and adaptation syndrome
- Lack of resilience or adaptation to stress leads to exhaustion, or adrenal fatigue
- Adrenal fatigue suppresses immunity, you get overwhelmed with cortisol
- Excess cortisol destroys cells in the hippocampus, which serves memory
- People under chronic stress are confused, have memory impairment; killing cells in their hippocampus (excitotoxicity)
- Joseph’s recovery and subsequent functioning at a high level was made possible by exercise, meditation, change in diet and improving relationships with his family, as discussed in the book Square One
A day in the life of an 80-year-old triathlete…18:25
- Minimum 1-hour workout each day
- Diet is primarily fruits, veggies, lean protein, Alaskan salmon, very little red meat
- Omega-3 fatty acids; fish oil being one of the best anti-inflammatories
- Curcumin and polyphenols
- The Zone Diet by Barry Sears, a close friend and one of the most informed individuals in terms of inflammation
- Inflammation is the common denominator in the development of cancer, heart disease, Alzheimer’s disease, and virtually most of the diseases of aging
David Rabin PhD starts at …22:30
Dr Rabin is a neuroscientist, board-certified psychiatrist, health-tech entrepreneur, and inventor who has been studying the impact of chronic stress in humans for nearly 15 years, particularly non-invasive therapies for treatment-resistant illnesses such as PTSD. He is the co-founder and chief innovation officer at Apollo Neuroscience and the co-founder and executive director of The Board of Medicine. In addition to his clinical psychiatry practice, Dr. Rabin is currently conducting research on the epigenetic regulation of trauma responses and recovery to elucidate the mechanism of psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy and the neurobiology of belief. Dr. Rabin received his MD in medicine and Ph.D. in neuroscience from Albany Medical College and specialized in psychiatry at the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center. His wife, Kathryn Fantauzzi, works with him as the CEO and co-founder of Apollo Neuroscience.
Dr Rabin’s podcast will focus on AI, psychedelics, and the convergence of Eastern and Western medical disciplines in current and post-COVID times.



Dr. Maroon received an athletic scholarship to Indiana University in Bloomington, Indiana where as an undergraduate, he was named a Scholastic All-American in football. Dr. Maroon has successfully maintained his personal athletic interests through participation in 9 marathons and more than 72 Olympic-distance triathlon events. However, his greatest athletic accomplishment is his participation in 8 Ironman triathlons (Hawaii – 1993, 2003, 2008, 2010, 2013; Canada – 1995; New Zealand – 1997; Germany – 2000), where he usually finishes in the top 10 of his age group. Recently, in July 2012 and 2013, he finished second and third, respectively, in his age group in the Muncie, Indiana half Ironman triathlon. In October 2013 he completed his 5th World Championship Ironman in Kona, Hawaii.